Scott's airplane effects shot

[Jon P]

Roger this has been one of the most inspiring posts ever! I cant wait to get down the model shop and start creating something so I can shoot it with my S8.

[eddie]

Hello!
Thats impressive and looks good, but its not perfect. Please dont get me wrong, this is the best way to do special effects and its very inspiring, but you can see the flaws.
The model is excellent, but maybe too excellent, I think the model is too much in focus, and its colours are too bright whereas the background is slightly out of focus with blander colour.
Maybe on s8 film you wont notice the difference?
how are you going to proceed now?
are you going to film the model on super8, then transfer to DV, then composite your new footage with some of Scotts original footage?
Please keep posting, this is really interesting, its nice to see special effects done this way.

[eddie]

this post really makes me laugh, no one would ever beleive that plane was a little plastic Airfix model [img]smile.gif[/img]

[MovieStuff]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by eddie:
this post really makes me laugh, </font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

So I take it your pervious post was a joke? [img]smile.gif[/img]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by eddie:

no one would ever beleive that plane was a little plastic Airfix model [img]smile.gif[/img] </font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

You're right. That's because it's really a little plastic Revel model. [img]wink.gif[/img]

Actually, this shot was done just for fun and it took us all of about 5 minutes to set up in the front yard at my house. As far as composition goes, no it won't be digitally composited. As noted in the previous posts, it will be shot exactly this same way; as a foreground miniature "in camera".

But you are correct about having to watch for the difference in clarity between foreground models and backgrounds. Sometimes smoke machines are needed to introduce a slight haze in the area where the model is to match any background haze that might exist.

Also, I intentionally exagerated the weathering a bit on the plane since the actual shot will have it quite a bit in the distance. As you can see from the overhead shot, the weathering looks quite a bit softer and less defined when you get some distance to it.

This shot was made on an overcast day, which is not ideal for foreground miniature shots but, again, this was just for fun so people could see the overall effect with the real plane. As I'll be shooting this on K25 DS8, I'll need a clear, cloudless day and about f11 to pull off the shot believably.

More to come....

[TA 152]

Very impressive job Roger. Looking forward to see the final resul.

However, i cannot see the pics in you last post.

Anybody else having this problem?


R

[Supa-eight]

All I can say is DAMN, LOOKS GOOD!

[TA 152]

Seems like the Moviestuff server is down at the moment?

R

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ October 24, 2002 12:43 AM: Message edited by: S8 Booster ]</font>

[mcarter4121]

One of the local camera shows provided a book on the subject. It is titled, "FILM DESIGN", Compiled and Edited by Terence St. John Marner, The Tantivy Press, London & A. S. Barnes, New Youk 1974. LOC: 72-9938, SBN: (U.K.) 90073069 2. ISBN (U.S.A.) 0-498-01326-X.
It is filled with tricks and diagrams like small ships in a man made ocean, shooting through screens and glass, all kinds of things.
Another is called, "TABLETOP PHOTOGRAPHY", By Jacob Deschin, A.R.P.S. Little Technical Library, Ziff-Davis Publishing Company. 1941. A small hardback thin text with pictures. Page 79 actually has a shot of a crashed airplane.

[StopMoWorks]

It looks pretty good to me. DV maybe has tendency to make images a bit sharp. Sure, one can play with it and tweak it endlessly. Foreground miniatures and other In-Camera FX work, are a blast!

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ October 25, 2002 12:53 AM: Message edited by: StopMoWorks ]</font>

[MovieStuff]

Bump to make this easier for Andrew to find, also! [img]smile.gif[/img]